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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: french chars: solaris <--- kermit ----> netcom(sunos)?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 15:16:59 GMT
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In article <dkcombsEHzvM5.4K1@netcom.com>,
David Combs <dkcombs@netcom.com> wrote:
: Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
: Subject: kermit & suns: reading french accents?
: Summary:
: Followup-To:
: Distribution: world
: Organization: Netcom On-Line Services
: Keywords:
:
: If I download a file containing eg french, onto
: my sun with solaris, and "more" the file, I can
: see the accents fine; they display above the
: chars, just the way you'd like.
:
: But when logged into shell account on netcom,
: and do the "more" THERE, or read mail (via unix
: "mail" prog), or read a web page via lynx,
: those chars do NOT show up on my screen --
: it looks like misspelled french.
:
: (Oh, the download works ok because I tar
: and gz it, and use -i, I suppose that's why)
:
: Anyway, what do I set to be able to SEE the
: french, WHILE logged in into netcom shell acct:
:
: 1: on the local computer (solaris -- probably already
: set ok, since "more" here works ok),
: 2: for KERMIT, which I use to dial into netcom,
: 3: and for the foreign computer, netcom's
: sparcstations running sunos 4.x.
:
: I grew up with 7bit ascii, clearly know
: nothing of this new 8bit stuff, and
: haven't a clue about the settings.
:
There are many issues here:
. Different computers might use different encodings
for non-ASCII characters, and when transferring
files containing non-ASCII characters between such
computers, you need to specify the source and
destination character sets. Kermit software is
the only file-transfer software that lets you do
this -- but it's not telepathic. You have to tell
it what the character sets are ("set file character-set",
"set transfer character-set").
. When viewing non-ASCII with a terminal or emulator,
you must set the terminal or emulator to the same
encoding that is used on the host. Again, Kermit
software lets you do this, but you have to tell it
exactly what to do ("set terminal character-set").
. If the encoding uses 8-bit bytes, you have to take all
the necessary measures to make the connection 8-bit
clean. In Kermit, the relevant commands are "set parity
none", "set terminal bytesize 8", "set command bytesize 8".
But you also need to set up your host for this, and the
command for this depends on your host ("set term /eight",
"stty pass8", "stty cs8", etc). In addition, you have
to make sure that any intervening devices or communication
methods (telnet or rlogin from terminal server, etc) are
themselves 8-bit clean, and again, the method for doing
this depends on the specific device.
The current version of C-Kermit is 6.0:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60.html
The manual includes an entire chapter on character sets
and how to use them.
- Frank